He reminds the assembled media that when someone is arrested they are considered innocent until proven guilty. Investigators previously shared the audio and video released to the public came from Libby German's phone. I wouldn't put any stock in what he claims. National interest in the Delphi murders reached a fever pitch when law enforcement released a brief clip from Libertys phone, which appeared to have recorded a blue jean-clad male approaching the pair while saying, Down the hill.. In addition, a young man seen by a female witness at the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM in the day of the murders. Say they dont know him. (AP) Jurors atthe trialof anIndiana man accused of killing two teenage girlsnearly six years ago MORE, By:James Howell Jr. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. Perhaps J, Mr. P, and Mr. Q, the unknown third man were actually involved in the planning of this crime and instead of intending to terrorize the 14 year old girl, they actually intended to murder her. The trail is located in a secluded area of Delphi, Indiana, and spans eight miles of densely populated woods. OPINION, Judge rules Richard Allens defenses funding request hearings will be sealed, Indiana judge issues gag order in case of 2 slain teen girls, Delphi Murders: Suspects Defense Team Speaks Out, Delphi Murders: Firearms Expert Explains Unspent Round, Records: Bullet found near 2 teens bodies came from suspect, Delphi Murders: Arrest Documents Unsealed, Delphi Murders: Prosecutors Say Richard Allen May Not Have Acted Alone, Judge weighs whether to unseal records in teens killings, Murdaugh Prosecutor Wraps Closing Argument: Dont Let Him Fool You Too, Murdaugh Prosecutor: Maggie and Paul Were Killed By Family Weapons, Court TV Visits Moselle Crime Scene After Jury View, Prosecutor Outlines Alex Murdaughs Gathering Storm, Obsessed Ex-Boyfriend Murder Trial: Prosecution Opening Statement. Listed as not a possible suspect but in fact as the main suspect in the crime. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "ad3cb7cff1f60f15022628e6714b6f59" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. What are your thoughts on the Mears Barn being the site of this terrible attack? Topics on the docket include a gag order, discovery requests and the MORE, By: Judge Ashley Willcott DELPHI, IN. We stand ready to cooperate with the police investigation in any way we can.. The selfie was posted by Mr Allens wife on Facebook in December 2021 the same month investigators issued a fresh appeal urging members of the public to come forward with information about an online catfishing account thought to be tied to the murders. He has lived in Delphi since at least 2006 and in Indiana his entire adult life, records show. Mr Underhill said that Mr Allen always seemed normal when he would come into the pub where he works. Libby captured a grainy Snapchat that authorities believe shows their killer, along with a chilling recording thought to be his voice. The photo apparently featured the coroner with the bodies of the two girls. Delphi resident, age 49 at the time of the crime, otherwise unremarkable person. He is closely associated with Mr. X. However, Supt Carter added that today is not a day to celebrate as Libby and Abbys families are still forced to go on without them. I think you donated with a different email but I just approved you. 00:50, Rachel Sharp. The photo shows Richard Allen, 50, smiling alongside his wife Kathy in a local bar in Delphi, Indiana the small, closeknit community where he has lived for more than 15 years and where victims Libby German and Abby Williams lived with their families before their brutal killings. If the source was giving us nonsense and lies, the police would not care at all. Rachel Sharp has been following the case. Also, there were what appeared to be memorial flowers left inside the barn. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning, Chicago police chief, U.S. attorney resign after Mayor Lori Lightfoot loses reelection. Here's why. This is excellent because it shows that our account of this crime is correct at least in part. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Independent will be post live updates on this blog. Fridays rulings are the latest update in the small Midwestern communitys nearly six-year ordeal that began when Liberty and Abigails bodies were discovered on Delphi Historic Trails on Valentines Day 2017 one day after they went missing during a school holiday. A MAN was reportedly arrested in connection to the murders of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams who were killed in 2017. All they have confirmed to us is that he is absolutely the Catfish Boy. 1. And it's having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, that's my dad, or that's my cousin, that's my neighbor, my co-worker. Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. Monday 31 October 2022 15:09 , Rachel Sharp. Required fields are marked *. Do you think the 14 yr old had the procedure on her to remove Fs DNA, the coroner would have explored that as the father would be a suspect. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. Youre welcome to join our group if you want to and can spare the change. It references audio and video from Victim 2's cellphone. We have no idea why he was fired or why the apartment was searched. How about this for a hypothesis? Investigators executed a search warrant of Allen's home Oct. 13, 2022, where they found jackets, boots, knives, and guns. Remember that video We have a secret? released the night before the crime where both girls are holding up their fingers in the secret signal? The implication that an alleged clerical error by an FBI employee caused years of delay in identifying thisdefendantis misleading. Police also believe that he helped set up the scary and bizarre crime scene. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. Mr. P: Mr. P was a 26 year old man at the time of the crime, now 30 years old. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning that Richard Matthew Allen, a local Delphi man and married father to an adult daughter, was charged with two counts of murder on Friday. Obviously, quickly taken down, etc etc. On Feb. 14, 2017, Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, were killed while biking on trails near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. In a move that propelled the investigation forward, Libby German captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a blue jacket and a cap walking along the abandoned railroad bridge on the day the two friends were murdered. On Friday, he was charged with two counts of murder and was moved to a state facility, reportedly for his own safety. He called me a few weeks ago in the morning and we talked at length about the crime. A Carroll County Sheriff's Department detective, who has been part of the investigation since it started, believes the evidence gathered shows that Allen is the man seen on the video from German's phone who forced the girls down the hill. Why was the tree gouged out like a beaver had sawed on it with teeth? He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. Maybe they told people they just wanted to scare the girls. JP has tattoos of Islamic symbols. Since then, several local men have fallen under suspicion for their murders. The witness told investigators it appeared he had gotten into a fight. For the last five years, police have remained tightlipped about the crime scene and how the girls died. But the podcasters said it's located just a few miles from the family home of 28-year-old Kegan Kline, who was arrested two years ago and charged with child pornography and child exploitation in a separate case to which he's pleaded not guilty. And is it possible that in killing these deer, he had a lot of experience with gutting deer, which involves removing their abdominal contents. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. We now know at least the motive and why certain things were done. That doesnt solve the case and thats not even enough to make an arrest. Police in Indiana have charged a 50-year-old local man with the 2017 Delphi murders more than five years after the bodies of best friends Libby German and Abby Williams were found close to a wooded trail. A lot of people are saying this. He doesn't have anything more than a bunch of crazy theories and a bit of creative writing based on his own sick fantasies. As members of the Carroll County community, we remain devastated by these murders and our hearts go out to the German and Williams families, the company said, per local outlet WRTV. Just zero in on the helicopter video flying over the site the day the bodies were found, and if you are good at photo's with your IPAD , Cell, you will see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvhKS1eRIMM. However, shocking new details about the murders came to light in a 2017 search warrant application obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent back in May of this year. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Many thanks for the replies, folks! Ive probably seen him. I suppose a better way of putting it would be to say that both girls had had PIV sex at least one time. Who is Richard Allen the man arrested over the 2017 Delphi murders? Mr Allen, 50, has pleaded not guilty to the charges and is said to be refusing to cooperate with the investigation. There is also a question whether he was just the Catfish Boy or whether he played a larger role than that, to quote our source. Robinson told the Indianapolis Star. Investigators believe the man is the killer. I know the girl that posted this too, and I really like her but The photos just are not the crime scene- it's impossible because this isn't the spot where law enforcement and the search party found the girls. The video that was sent to me of the $300,000,000 property in California with the wings like the wings in Wapotek, is that a Saudi compound? If not, I get it, believe me! Soon after the crime, he was abruptly fired from his job. However, a female search party member has stated that one girls abdominal cavity was excavated. The following information did not come to us from the police. "What we're hearing from sources indicates that this is connected," said Aine Cain, co-host of The Murder Sheet. We believe he met criteria for Conduct Disorder as a youth and may have trended into Antisocial Personal Disorder as an adult. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the shows founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesdays Crime Stories to discuss the case. It is a hypothesis we are considering, but it has no direct evidence to back it up at the moment. "What we're hearing from sources indicates that this is connected," co-host of The Murder Sheet, Aine Cain said on the podcast. Could that be the nature of the falling out with this male guardian and Mr. X? We now have some additional insight into the reasons Carroll Countys prosecutor asked a judge to seal records in the Delphi murder case. They added that Allen had been moved to a state facility for his own safety. The other three had varying levels of participation that could be peripheral and innocent or some degree of worse. Most of them looked like they had just seen a ghost. Some of us call the source The Riddler in reference to the Batman show. As [Indiana State Police Supt] Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. A gag order on the investigation remains in place. Seventh, We are not referring to either girl by name below, however, there seems to be some confusion about which girl was the focus of the crime. We are calling him Mr. F because he was the father of the fetus the 14 year old girl was carrying. As of 2022, they are looking for information from anyone who interacted with Kline's fake accounts. Kegan Kline, 28, admitted to using a phony social media account with the handle "anthony_shots" to communicate with minors, Indiana State Police say. The sister of one of the Delphi victims celebrated the announcement that Richard Allen had been charged with their murders more than five years on from the killings. 3. Mr Allen, a trained pharmaceutical technician who worked in the store in the heart of the small town of Delphi, processed some of the photos for the family and didnt charge them for the images when they went in to collect them. Investigators would not say what exactly they are looking for in that riverbed nor how it could possibly be connected to the Delphi murders case. Thank you for this comment. Man arrested over Delphi murders pictured with police sketch of suspect in background. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll county prosecutor's office. If you join our private group though, you can learn all of this information. Just like a normal guy that Ive seen for the last couple years, not really thinking anything.. Notifications can be turned off anytime in the browser settings. Monday 31 October 2022 20:50 , Rachel Sharp. The Indiana State Police Laboratory performed an analysis on one of Allen's guns, a Sig Sauer Model P226. He is due back in court in January 202 for a pre-trial hearing. Monday 31 October 2022 22:50 , Rachel Sharp. We will say more then. He again told them he was on the trail Feb. 13, 2017. Could it be that these three young men, J and Misters P and Q, set up that weird bizarro crime scene beforehand with the stuffed bear, the dolls, the sheet with the smiley face, the crucifix, on and on, to lure the 14 year old girl there to terrorize her and threaten her to have the abortion? Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspect in the case and have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. When she was driving away, she said she saw a vehicle parked in an "odd manner" at the former Child Protective Services building, with the vehicle backed in near the building. Cain said: "A lot of technology comes up in this case of devices that are being used to store child sexual abuse materials or communications with underage girls. There is tentatively a press conference Monday at 10 am. Authorities say they have uncovered evidence in the five-year-old murders of Williams and German and revealed the killer may have taken a souvenir after killing the teen girls. The Independents Rachel Sharp has the full story: Delphi man charged with murders of Libby German and Abby Williams. On the other hand, he is very charming, but most of these types are like that. Then, the witness said she saw two girls walking toward Monon High Bridge, believed to be German and Williams. The police line appears to be that further details will be provided as and when appropriate as the investigation proceeds. The word for the weapon was redacted in the document. Weve dumped the Mears Barn for now. (11/29/22) MORE, VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say defendant Richard Allen may have had an accomplice. Indiana State Police announced the charges on Monday a bombshell development in the high-profile case that has rocked the small, close-knit community of Delphi and had gone unsolved for more than half a decade. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. We are now stating for an absolute fact that J, or at least a photo of J, is the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to catfish a girl over four months on Snapchat. Bottom line is a girl was pregnant is absolutely the key to this crime. And thats the case. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. He said he had worked a lot of homicide cases with police all over the country. RELATED | Police release video, sketch and audio of suspect in Delphi double murder. Could it be that Mr. F told J and Misters P, Q, and B about his plight with the girl who would not abort? I am proud to say that today actually last Friday that today is the day. Investigators released a grainy image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill., This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. The hosts of the true-crime podcast The Murder Sheet took photographs showing investigators searching the Wabash River, located about 40 miles away from where Williams and German's bodies were found. Anybody would tell you that,resident A.J. For some odd reason, the father of the baby is apparently not a suspect! For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Abigail Joyce Williams was one of the two girls killed, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have drawn international attention. The man in the recording is heard telling the girls: "Down the hill" in the moments before they died. During the walk, Libby posted a photo of her best friend walking along the Monon High Bridge. Lafayette Journal & Courier's Ron Wilkins contributed to this report. Indiana State Police would only confirm they have a dive team in the area. It was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. The next day Valentines Day 2017 their bodies were discovered in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. Will it lead to solving the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German?0:00 The Delphi Murders5:40 The Investigation9:42 Leigh Kerr12:27 The Criminal ProfileSOURCES: https://pastebin.com/LZjy3tHr#truecrime #DelphiMurders #AbbyandLibby I would talk; he wouldnt say much. A man named Richard Allen has reportedly been arrested and placed in a Carroll County Jail in connection to the Delphi murders, a source told Fox59. Mr Allen, 50, is a trained pharmaceutical technician and worked at the local CVS store in the heart of the small town, home to only around 3,000 residents. The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi, Indiana, nearly six years ago will use jurors bused in from another county, a judge ruled Friday. Allen is charged with the 2017 murders of 13-year-old Indiana teens Abby Williams and MORE, DELPHI, Ind. The unsolved murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams have disturbed and shocked the nation. He described the Most importantly, all of this information comes to me from members of my sleuthing group. If any other person had any involvement in the murders in any way, that person will be held accountable, said Indiana State Police Supt Doug Carter. If you can imagine how horrendous a girl in that condition may have seen to those who discovered her, can you now start to understand why the police at that first press conference all looked so freaked out? It showed up quickly within a week of the murders when a local young man published photos of the crime scene that he had somehow obtained. Richard Allen has been pictured in his mugshot following his arrest for the 2017 murders of Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi. First of all, we are going to need to hide the names of some people. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at the Delphi Historic Trails at about 1pm on February 13, 2017. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. Also, one of the nations top experts on serial killers has expressed interest in joining us in trying to solve this crime, as has a female homicide detective who ran an 80-person unit in France. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Aside from that, the family members said they didnt know Mr Allen but in a close-knit town of just 3,000 people had likely encountered him on other occasions over the last five years. Our investigation revealed that both of those girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex, so getting pregnant was definitely a possible thing. So when I say, we, I am saying this is what the whole group thinks. However, this information does come to us straight from our sources in the police, whatever thats worth. What if that were true and not just an idle rumor? Mr Allen has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty and is police remind the press conference that he is innocent until proven guilty. Ms German shared Mr Allens mugshot and the police press release about the development, adding in a follow-up tweet: *innocent until proven guilty. In that case, LE would be looking at a murder involving one older man and three young men, or four people. It also shows that police read our website and are onto us and our sleuthing group. And this girl may indeed have been using drugs from ages 12-14, although we are not certain about this. Delphi murder victims family says suspect was hiding in plain sight, Man arrested worked at local CVS store in heart of Delphi, Local man Richard Allen, 50, arrested in connection to murders, Indiana State Police to hold press conference about case, Richard Allen posed for smiling selfie in front of police sketch of suspect. Kline reportedly admitted to using a fake account to talk with underage girls but denied any involvement in German or William's murders. Allen said he saw girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge before he went to the Monon High Bridge to watch the fish. A vehicle that resembled Allen's 2016 Ford Focus was also seen on video going west on County Road 300 North at 1:27 p.m. Allen was again interviewed by investigators on Oct. 13, 2022. In a move that propelled the investigation forward, Libby German captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a blue jacket and a cap walking along the The 14 year old had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12-14. 2: The creekside in the little cove-like area where the Sons of Odin would have taken the clumps of hair from each girl. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. I had the smiley face for McCain Signature Smiles that I happened to run on to at my grocery store, and for the non-secular I remember Carter showing a picture of a person in white sheets with a turbine and felt there might have been a quaran left there too. ", He said: "Somebody out there knows who this person is. We have learned that the police are investigating who in the police is leaking to us, which shows our facts are correct. People are told to contact Indiana State Police with information not only about Mr Allen but about any other information regarding the case. Officials from multiple law enforcement agencies including Indiana State Police, the Carroll County Sheriffs Office, Carroll County Prosecutors Office and the US Marshal Service as well as members of the victims families are scheduled to hold a press conference shortly. He said hes hiding in plain sight, he said. Fifth, Our source is a LE officer close to the case. The Delphi murders have confounded investigators in the five years since Williams and German's bodies were found and in 2018, the head of the Indiana State Police Office, Doug Carter, told the IndyStar that he believed they were "one piece of the puzzle away from figuring out who this individual is. 2023 www.indystar.com. What if a search party member reported that it was true that one of the girls was seen in this condition at the crime scene? They mostly talk in riddles. October 28th was the day. I think theres a good possibility one girl was stabbed in the throat and bled out while tied to this fence and the other was attacked in the hay with the hillbilly procedure you mentioned. He got out of jail seven months before the crime. In order to determine if either girl could have been pregnant, unfortunately we had to do an investigation into their personal lives. The warrant says it is likely the killer had blood stains on his clothes, although no one has ever been arrested for the girls' murders. She was in the early stages of pregnancy. But maybe they have cracked. He is now a 21 year old man. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody on Wednesday (26 October) and booked into Carroll County Jail. On February 13, 2017, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were tragically murdered while visiting the Monon High Bridge in Delphi, IN. DELPHI, Ind. Indiana Lt Governor Suzanne Crouch has spoken out about the development in the Delphi case. But definitely I dont know him., Monday 31 October 2022 18:10 , Rachel Sharp. One of the witnesses said the man they saw matched the description of the photograph of the man seen on German's phone. This story has been shared 109,884 times. Also, I wish to make these posts less egocentric. He subsequently pleaded not guilty and is being held without bond. One of the witnesses said the man had something covering his mouth. Average Retirement Savings By Age: Are You Normal? In a statement posted on her Facebook page, she wrote: I want to thank the Indiana State Police and all the other law enforcement and community partners who have worked tirelessly to find closure for the families of Libby German and Abby Williams. Mike and Becky Patty, the grandparents of victim Libby German, told reporters after Mondays press conference that they remembered suspected killer Richard Allen serving them one time in the local CVS where he worked. (WRTV) On Friday, the man charged with murder stemming from the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German MORE, VIDEO: Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen is due in court Friday, Jan. 13. Monday 31 October 2022 14:18 , Oliver O'Connell. The family of one of the Delphi victims has revealed that they had an encounter with the man now accused of her murder, as they accused him of hiding in plain sight the whole time. Elizabeth Holmes has 2nd child as she tries to avoid prison, Family see major cut as pandemic-era SNAP benefits expire, Norfolk Southern CEO to testify before Senate next week. Its concerning that hes a local guy, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said upon Allens arrest. He is due back in court in 13 January 2023 for a pre-trial hearing. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting Allen, whom prosecutors charged The FBI search warrant, obtained by theMurder Sheetpodcast and released toIndianapolis FOX59 did not provide information describing what the murder weapon might be or the cause of death. Now, 10 months later, Mr Allen has been arrested and charged with Libby and Abbys murders. 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